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Should Teachers, Adoptive Parents Have to Submit Fingerprints for Background Checks?

Gov. Deval Patrick signed legislation that would require teachers, workers at child care centers and school bus drivers to submit fingerprints for criminal background checks.

 

Should school and child care employees fingerprinted before starting employment in order to check their criminal backgrounds? How about fingerprinting anyone who wants to adopt or foster a child?

The governor thinks so.

The state education office announced on Friday that Gov. Deval Patrick had signed a bill authorizing the Department of Early Education and Care and school districts to conduct fingerprint-supported national criminal history background checks on all teachers, school employees and early education providers in Massachusetts.  

"Prior to this law, school districts and early education providers were allowed only to conduct name-based Criminal Offender Record Information checks covering criminal history record information for crimes committed in Massachusetts," the press release said. "These CORI checks did not include any criminal history record information for crimes committed outside the Commonwealth."

The fingerprint background checks would also apply to everyone seeking to adopt children or become foster parents, as the legislation is written.

Fingerprints would be submitted to the Massachusetts State Police for a state criminal history check and forwarded to the Federal Bureau of Investigation for a national criminal history check, reported the Associated Press.

The state Legislature passed the bill at the end of December, weeks after John Burbine was arrested on charges he sexually abused children at his wife's unlicensed child care business in Wakefield.

Other cases that unfolded in the past year include a former Newton elementary school teacher who was sentenced to 45 years in prison on child pornography charges; a Taunton High School teacher accused of various sex crimes against underage teens; and 30-year-old allegations against a former Foxborough educator.

Massachusetts wouldn't be the first state to enact such a law. Oregon passed a similar law in 1993, and New York and Maine require fingerprinting of school teachers. Texas also has a fingerprint law for teachers, which led to a lawsuit against the Texas Education Agency by one teacher who asserted the law violated her First Amendment right to freedom of religion.

What do you think? Will the fingerprinting help keep kids safe, or is this a step too far? Tell us in the comments section below.

Related Topics: CORI, Deval Patrick, bus drivers, and fingerprinting

Jill

6:56 am on Saturday, January 12, 2013

If you are adopting a child in MA, you have had to get fingerprints already (along with CORI and SORI and a million other things!). This would not be something new.

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ann mcgreevy

8:08 am on Saturday, January 12, 2013

Yes, absolutely. What be concerned if someone has nothing to hide. We need to keep our children as safe as possible...Ann

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Denise

8:37 am on Saturday, January 12, 2013

When you adopt in MA, you are legally required to submit fingerprints, have CORI and background check. This has been in place for years.

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Rick Thornton

9:37 am on Saturday, January 12, 2013

I'm surprised that teachers aren't fingerprinted. When I taught in New Mexico, I was fingerprinted and had a background check run

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Judy McKenzie

9:56 am on Saturday, January 12, 2013

Teachers have a CORI done, but not finger-printing.

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Peace

12:44 pm on Saturday, January 12, 2013

Taking a fingerprint has nothing to do with a mad man shooting through a door to get inside and do harm. Spend the time and money educating kindness in children who have nowhere else to learn it, and address mental health and gun control issues.

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Simon Vaughn Markham

1:24 pm on Saturday, January 12, 2013

Obviously fingerprints won't stop somebody from committing a crime but it HELPS to facilitate possible crimes and criminals. Why would you complain about something that is only there to protect the innocent? Mental health and gun control issues SHOULD be addressed but if theres nothing to hide then whats wrong with a fingerprint? My friends have kids and I will in the future I am FOR anything that will protect their safety.

Robert O'Brien

1:12 pm on Saturday, January 12, 2013

Absolutely should be fingerprinted!

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Simon Vaughn Markham

1:18 pm on Saturday, January 12, 2013

If you got nothing to hide it shouldn't be anything more than a quick dab of the finger! If they want to start fingerprinting everybody to make a safer community and enviornment for children then so be it! A small inconvenice is most certaintly worth helping to better the future for everybody, especially children. A lot of people sure are coming out with the old redneck style "this is AMerICUHHH I donT Haf ta Do THAT its a FrEE countray!!!!!' just shut up you are old fashioned and nobody cares step in line and help make this a better place rather than protecting your "rights" that nobody cares about

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Robert O'Brien

1:25 pm on Saturday, January 12, 2013

In my mind if you are a public servant or involved in Healthcare, Doctor,Nurse...do not even have to dirty your hands they can do it off an infrared reader.

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Johnny V

8:04 pm on Saturday, January 12, 2013

Simon,
You can surrender your rights but please do not assume that "nobody cares" about protecting our right to privacy. That is a very narrow minded, short sighted, statement from an obviously immature human being. Should we all just follow our government blindly? I think that happened in Germany a little while ago...how'd that work out?

Our country was BORN on the backs of men who had the courage to stand up to their government and refused to follow the status quo. Countless men and women have fought and sacrificed their lives to protect these "rights" that you say no one cares about.

You couldn't be more wrong.

Jose O

3:41 pm on Saturday, January 12, 2013

This won't do anything. All teachers already need to have a background check (CORI). Sure, fingerprint them...it won't do anything! It is just the government trying to promote a false sense of security. This facade is all about playing political games and getting votes...not the safety of your children. Politcal grandstanding at its finest...

If you disagree with this, please do not just attack my opinion, but instead try to convince me that this will actually make our schools safer. All of those creepy pervert teachers had clean records, so what would this have done? When is the last time a teacher "went postal" at a school and harmed any children? Please, enlighten me as to how this will do ANYTHING to protect the children.

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Cwheels

5:59 pm on Saturday, January 12, 2013

What are the guide lines for disqualification or termination of employment? Should a talented, young educator be turned away from our schools because he/she was arrested for possession of marijuana in collage?

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B. Daubach

7:23 pm on Saturday, January 12, 2013

I know for a fact that there are public school teachers who have DUI's...and have not been terminated. I happen to believe that, unless their conviction has something to do with being a danger to children or is for a violent crime, that a teacher should be allowed to keep their job. There should be a seperation between ones' personal and professional life.

HOWEVER, I can understand the point of view that teachers are supposed to be role models and should be held to a "higher standard"....and can see why some parents would object to their continued employment. I just don't believe that teachers are compensated enough for us to invade their personal lives (unless their personal lives but our children in danger).

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J. Frye

10:42 am on Sunday, January 13, 2013

B. Daubach brings up an interesting point; I don't really know where I stand on this. Does anyone here feel that a teacher should be terminated because of a non-violent crime like a DUI?

kerstin locherie

7:18 pm on Saturday, January 12, 2013

More rules and government intervention for the law abiding citizen, while the criminals already in jail are set free ? I don't get it ? The Criminals, mentally impaired and those with psychological issues have already been put into society without any governmental supervision. The government has no money folks, so why penalize the law abiding citizens who are obeying the law. This kid in Newtown stole guns from his mother. Just as if your Dad was a police officer and you grabbed a gun at an opportune moment. Many if not thousands of prison guards and all forms of law enforcement have guns which can be easily had by a family member who is not all there. How can the laws be air tight without having a Police State. Of which, even in China, citizens steal guns from relatives and have shoot outs with the police. You never hear about this, because they have a police state. Yet, we do business with all of these countries throughout the world who violate Human Rights !
When The Texas Chain Saw Massacre is the number one movie in the United States. Us, the older generation are the ones to blame, not the kids or younger adults who have brain washed through saturation violence through the Main Stream Media, whom profits from these movies and video games !

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Johnny V

7:28 pm on Saturday, January 12, 2013

Less guns mean less violence. I've said it before and I'll say it again:

There will be less "mass killings" without guns...people don't go on killing sprees with knives (and if they did they wouldn't get very far).
Guns allow for anonymous killing....it is much easier to defend yourself from a lead pipe then it is from a bullet fired for 20 yards (or even 6 ft) away.

Sorry, but guns (not movies) are the problem. To my knowledge, no one has ever killed another person with a DVD.

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Robert O'Brien

9:46 pm on Saturday, January 12, 2013

Johnny V stay on point....this is not a gun debate.

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Johnny V

10:04 pm on Saturday, January 12, 2013

Mind your own business Robert...adults are talking.

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Robert O'Brien

10:47 pm on Saturday, January 12, 2013

Stay on point Johnny. Don't get frustrated! You are a libitard you know, know better. You are forgiven.....LOL

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Johnny V

9:39 pm on Saturday, January 12, 2013

Sorry...not wasting my time watching propaganda from a site called "guns america." I don't need a video to tell me that guns contribute to many innocent people being killed every year. How many kids would have been saved in Sandy Hook if that kid didn't have access to a gun? Sure, he still is crazy enough to WANT to kill all of those poor children....but he wouldn't have been able to without mommy's weapons.

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Robert O'Brien

9:48 pm on Saturday, January 12, 2013

Not a gun debate..... Stay on point!

J.Yuma

9:49 pm on Saturday, January 12, 2013

Never be afraid of the truth

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Barry Henderson

8:59 am on Sunday, January 13, 2013

I beleive the reason for the finger printing was in response to the person in Wakefield who had a history as a sex offender and was never flagged. So he worked at his wifes daycare where he proceeded to molest and film children and babies. Please don't make this about guns as it is not. Massachusetts already has some of the most strictest gun laws in the country and I refuse to submit to any more controls on law abiding citizens. Our polititians need to stay on point here and stop passing knee jerk reaction legislation any time there is a masacre. If they want to do something about guns then they should try and get the federal government to step in and have our nieghbor to the north NH implement some form of gun control so they stop comming over the border and into the wrong hands

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J. Frye

10:40 am on Sunday, January 13, 2013

Since most day cares are private businesses this law probably wouldn't apply to them anyways. Government has much more control over public schools (for example, private schools in MA don't have to take the MCAS exam).

Dawn Ripley

10:18 am on Sunday, January 13, 2013

"Texas also has a fingerprint law for teachers, which led to a lawsuit against the Texas Education Agency by one teacher who asserted the law violated her First Amendment right to freedom of religion."

What does freedom of religion have anything to do with getting fingerprinted?? And for those who dont or refuse to get fingerprinted 1) what are you hiding? and 2) you can always go work at Burger King!!!

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J. Frye

10:38 am on Sunday, January 13, 2013

1) The vast majority have nothing to hide, just feel this is another one of their rights being violated
2) They would probably get paid more at Burger King

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Dawn Ripley

10:49 am on Sunday, January 13, 2013

What about the childs rights to be safe in a public place... what about the rights of the public to know that the people we are sending our children to for 8 hours a day are not criminals, predators or insane?? what about their rights??? As far as Im concerned if you have commmited a felony ( which is what this is about, not DUIs and juvenile stupidity) then you loose the right to be in certain jobs, just as you loose the right to vote if you have been incarcerated or commited a felony. Dont be stupid and make stupid choices with your life and no one will stop you from doing what you want.

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J. Frye

11:02 am on Sunday, January 13, 2013

What if they made a stupid mistake (like marijuana possession or public intoxication) when they were in college (or even last week), and this shows up on the "fingerprint" check? Would it be plastered all over the local newspaper? If the answer is "yes" then they might as well fire the teacher...because they will no longer have the respect of the parents or students in the community. Where would the line be drawn?

Teachermom

11:08 am on Sunday, January 13, 2013

J. Frye, for your information private school teachers get coried and in my case I get coried every year. Some public schools don't get coried yearly as I learned in a public discussion the other day. We would probably follow the same rules as our public counterparts since all parents and teachers are looking out for the best interest and protection of their children!

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J. Frye

11:22 am on Sunday, January 13, 2013

Im sure your school "probably would" follow the same rules, but that's not the point. The point is your school would have the choice; and that the government really couldn't do anything if your school opted to forgo the fingerprinting.

Susanna Ehrmann

1:20 pm on Sunday, January 13, 2013

I am really sorry to see Massachusetts go the way of Texas, apparently. I "live" in Houston, by circumstance rather than by choice. I am also a teacher who now teaches only in a private school. We have had fingerprinting for quite some time in public school, but it doesn't stop the perverts from getting jobs as teachers. Some even are caught eventually. There is too much "foresight" and not enough common sense in our laws today, not only in "education,"either.

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NaemhOisin

7:31 am on Monday, January 14, 2013

A person who thinks that mass murder was never committed without guns is a person ignorant of history...and of current events. My God. How this topic becomes a debate about guns is beyond me. It is a good thing to know if a daycare provider or a teacher has committed crimes against children in other parts of the country that has nothing to do with guns but more predatory. But seriously, if you think mass murder is not committed with weapons of savagery in this world, then you are extremely ignorant. If you have no problem forfeiting your rights that were won for you by the blood of the courageous, then go ahead in your cowardly deed but you do not speak for me who would die in defending those rights.

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Troy O

2:45 pm on Monday, January 14, 2013

Nobody said that "mass murder was never committed without guns." They said that it is made much easier to kill a lot people when you have a gun....which is true.

Please send me every link you can find referencing a mass killing in the US that was committed with any weapon other than a gun. Then I will send you all the mass murders I can find in the US that were the direct result of a maniac with a gun. We have to get rid of the morons or the guns...and it is impossible to get rid of all the morons...so......

"Any person who doesn't think like me must be ignorant" is an argument made by people who can't back up their inane ramblings with facts. Who sounds ignorant now?

NaemhOisin

5:36 pm on Monday, January 14, 2013

I was responding to johnny v's post that people dont go on murder sprees with knives-and merely pointing out that throughout history and in today's world that simply is not the case--now let me ask you this please-when you want to confiscate guns, does this also include guns belonging to criminals, like in boston for example-where gang-related murders take place almost weekly--or do you just want to disarm a law-abiding population? do you want to take a registered gun away from a woman living in fear for her life because her rapist is still on the streets and knows where she lives? the questions are endless when the knee-jerk reaction is just that and the unintended consequences are an after-thought.

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kerstin locherie

4:11 am on Thursday, January 17, 2013

Politicians are the only people in the world who create problems and then campaign against them.

Have you ever wondered, if both the Democrats and the Republicans are against deficits, WHY do we have deficits?

Have you ever wondered, if all the politicians are against inflation and high taxes, WHY do we have inflation and high taxes?

You and I don't propose a federal budget. The President does.

You and I don't have the Constitutional authority to vote on appropriations. The House of Representatives does.

You and I don't write the tax code, Congress does.

You and I don't set fiscal policy, Congress does.

You and I don't control monetary policy, the Federal Reserve Bank does.

One hundred senators, 435 congressmen, one President, and nine Supreme Court justices equates to 545 human beings out of the 300 million are directly, legally, morally, and individually responsible for the domestic problems that plague this country.

I excluded the members of the Federal Reserve Board because that problem was created by the Congress. In 1913, Congress delegated its Constitutional duty to provide a sound currency to a federally chartered, but private, central bank.

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